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Poster: garthus Date: Mar 23, 2011 9:10pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google Book settlement denied

I read this case, interesting decision. Orphan works should be Public Domain unless the owner appears to claim his rights. Google just saw a chance to make some money here. I think that once someone makes a digital copy of these books and posts them to the archive it will be harder for something like this to happen in the future.

Gerry

This post was modified by garthus on 2011-03-24 04:10:02

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Poster: stbalbach Date: Mar 24, 2011 1:27pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google Book settlement denied

Agreed. If Google was serious about making orphan works more available, it would build and sell an affordable book scanning machine, and encourage individuals to sort it out on a per book basis (like at Internet Archive) using the law the way it is written, instead of trying to create new law or (possibly now) lobby Congress to give them special rights. They have too much money and are trying to re-write the rules to their favor, it's like Disney and copyright extension.

I'm surprised there is not a collaborative project, like Project Gutenberg or LibriVox, but focused on scanning books published in the 1923-1963(?) time-frame (the ones that have not been renewed) using DIY book scanners and books from libraries.

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Poster: garthus Date: Mar 25, 2011 10:25am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google Book settlement denied

Most of the material which I have been scanning comes from that time period. This should be a priority before Google and its ilk can have their way.

Gerry

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Poster: stbalbach Date: Mar 25, 2011 11:35am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google Book settlement denied

Yes, there is a gold mine of material out there waiting to be digitized.

I just found Project Gutenberg Consortia Center. It looks like a project to focus on the post-1923 works. It says:

"..this center acts as a clearinghouse for eBooks presumed to be public domain in the United States, but whose copyright data are not yet sufficient to pass the extreme copyright research required for inclusion in the general Project Gutenberg collection as per copyright requirements in the United States. There will also be Project Gutenberg Consortia Centers for "life +50," "life +70" countries, and hopefully even for "life +60" countries such as India, Venezuela, etc."

For example I found a book there I want to read, Reminiscences of a Stock Operator (1923), originally housed at World Public Library, since formatted and uploaded to Internet Archive's Community Text library. Interesting tangle of projects.

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Poster: Jeff Kaplan Date: Mar 25, 2011 11:57am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Google Book settlement denied

you'll find many of those on the archive. For instance:
http://www.archive.org/details/ReminiscencesOfAStockOperator

We have over 20,000 books from Project Gutenberg at http://www.archive.org/details/gutenberg

This post was modified by Jeff Kaplan on 2011-03-25 18:57:48